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'''''Extra NOTE to Edgar:''' ''We are all living in different countries, none of them are communistic (I assume), however the wiki isn't a platform where idiots can write whatever shit they fucking want, nor is this a debate forum. Whenever an editor sees blatant falsehoods written on a page that is meant to give useful info about that subject, they have the full right to delete it. We collectively want the wiki to be a descent source of information and you are willfully and/or obtusely fighting against that goal. I can also point out that <u>you have been granted full permission to edit your own page in whatever way you like</u>. A rare exception from our collective goal. If you wrote this "similarity between evolution and flat earth" nonsense on your own page, no one would delete it. That is the very opposite of censorship. '''<u>So, here is the deal. If you don't move this paragraph to your own page in 24 hours, you will face the likelihood of being banned temporarily thereby losing your privilege to edit your own page.</u>''' You have been given [http://great-debate-community.wikia.com/wiki/Evolution#Extras this warning] before when you wrote on the "evolution" page. Learn from your experience, don't repeat your mistakes. | '''''Extra NOTE to Edgar:''' ''We are all living in different countries, none of them are communistic (I assume), however the wiki isn't a platform where idiots can write whatever shit they fucking want, nor is this a debate forum. Whenever an editor sees blatant falsehoods written on a page that is meant to give useful info about that subject, they have the full right to delete it. We collectively want the wiki to be a descent source of information and you are willfully and/or obtusely fighting against that goal. I can also point out that <u>you have been granted full permission to edit your own page in whatever way you like</u>. A rare exception from our collective goal. If you wrote this "similarity between evolution and flat earth" nonsense on your own page, no one would delete it. That is the very opposite of censorship. '''<u>So, here is the deal. If you don't move this paragraph to your own page in 24 hours, you will face the likelihood of being banned temporarily thereby losing your privilege to edit your own page.</u>''' You have been given [http://great-debate-community.wikia.com/wiki/Evolution#Extras this warning] before when you wrote on the "evolution" page. Learn from your experience, don't repeat your mistakes. | ||
== NESSLIG’S Criteria Of Posting/Commenting == | |||
1. Censorship. He believed that we | |||
are not living in a Communist country like China and yet he censored any comments/posts | |||
that he did not like and he could not rebut. He said “…none of them are | |||
communistic…” | |||
2. Idiotic Criteria. He did not | |||
define the word “idiot” but in science, an idiot is a person who claims | |||
something but could never show it. That is an idiot. ToE and Flat Earth are an | |||
idiotic theory/explanation since they could not explain reality, but Nesslig | |||
will label any explanation that will violate evolution. He wrote “…where idiots | |||
can write whatever shit they fucking want…” | |||
3. No-Debate Forum. He adheres to the | |||
criterion of “No-Debate” policy but he will surely engage you in a debate by | |||
giving his own rebuttal. He said that “…nor is this a debate forum..”. He | |||
indirectly challenged MrIntelligentDesign (Edgar) in the topics of evolution and | |||
Flat Earth but Nesslig is not willing to answer directly all of the questions | |||
that are being thrown at him. Thus, he did not like debate but he will start it | |||
indirectly. Beware. | |||
4. Blatant Falsehoods. Nesslig | |||
believed that his posts/comments are not blatant falsehoods because he said so, | |||
a typical bully who exerts his effort to bully any person that he could never | |||
rebut. He said “…blatant falsehoods written on a page..”. In science, any topics | |||
like Evolution and Flat earth are blatant falsehoods since they could never explain | |||
reality as in a broader/whole perspective. | |||
5. Descent Source Of Info. Nesslig | |||
believed that by censoring any topics that he could never rebut is one example | |||
of giving any readers a descent source of information. He will not let the | |||
other side to be read or be posted, thus, a bias info is descent info. He said | |||
that ”… the wiki to be a descent source of information…” And if you show to | |||
Nesslig the other side of the story, he will bully you like this: “…you are | |||
willfully and/or obtusely fighting against that goal..” Beware. | |||
6. Jealousy Policy. Nesslig is | |||
very jealous to MrIntellgentDesign (Edgar) for the latter has been sharing his | |||
initial input to his own profile to help the editors and posters glimpse the | |||
idea of the new Intelligent Design <id>. But Nesslig did not understand that | |||
Edgar is a more than a scientist since he discovered the real “intelligence” and | |||
he has authored 6 science books and yet Nesslig has none to offer. Nesslig | |||
wanted to equate himself to Edgar but it is impossible. Nesslig said | |||
emotionally, “…you have been granted full permission to edit your own page in | |||
whatever way you like. A rare exception from our collective goal.” | |||
7. Deal With It. Nesslig will challenge | |||
you to deal with him if he knew that he could never rebut your science or if he | |||
felt that he has no chance of winning a debate to a real scientist. He said “…here | |||
is the deal…” Now, you must face a bully or submit to a bully. To him, that is called | |||
“…collective goal…” Deal With It or Be banned! | |||
8. 24 hours. Nesslig will give you | |||
24 hours (or billions years, I don’t know) to comply with his bullying for he | |||
cannot rebut the opposing sides. He said that “…in 24 hours…” | |||
9. Ban Policy! Nesslig will ban | |||
you if you post any science that he cannot rebut. He will ban you if you defeat | |||
him in a debate that he initiated and started. He never called it censorship | |||
but he is doing a censorship. He said | |||
that “…you will face the likelihood of being banned temporarily…” | |||
10. Warning Policy! Nesslig will surely warn you not debate with him | |||
when he initiated and started a debate in science. He will warn you not post | |||
real science and real explanation of reality especially the topics that he had | |||
no clue about like “intelligence”. He said that “…You have been given this | |||
warning…” | |||
Nesslig, MrIntellgentDesign (Edgar) had six | |||
science books, had the best science, had the best model, and had the best explanation, thus, Edgar is giving you his profile in GDC Wiki. You can ban MrIntelligentDesign anytime you like, besides, real scientist, like Galileo was really banned and | |||
house-imprisoned for his science! | |||
== THE DISSIMILARITY of FLAT EARTH and EVOLUTION (ToE) == | == THE DISSIMILARITY of FLAT EARTH and EVOLUTION (ToE) == |
Revision as of 20:38, 19 July 2017
Flat Earth is what happens when you combine at least 8 years of religious homeschool indoctrination along with daily doses of Prozac combined with blunt force trauma to the head. It takes a life deprived of experiencing the perspective of 100 ft elevation, deprived of being taught basic geometry, deprived of simple answers to simple questions in order to believe this bucket of lies brought about by scripture and people whom are dumber than a bag of hammers. Dumber than Congress. Dumber than G Man's shit. Even relying on framework as bankrupt as governmental epistemology would not justify one's belief in this concept. Should you encounter Mr. Turtle that hold the purported flat Earth on his shell, please tell him for us that.
Connections to other Forms of Pseudoscience
Acceptance of the flat Earth generally comes with Biblical literalism, geocentrism, young-Earth creationism, and an acceptance of many other conspiracy theories such as the faking of the moon landing and most massacres, 9/11, all of science in general, and even ancient aliens.
*(please expend upon)
Similarity of Flat Earth to Evolution (ToE)
- The Basis. The Theory of Evolution (ToE) starts its explanation in biology, as basis, after life had begun (either biogenesis or abiogenesis). The explanation will literally start when this life had produced an "evolvable" amount of individuals that could be categorized as "population" - since in ToE, population evolves, and not cell or individual. ToE also limited itself or silent (no explanations) in the following topics in reality: process, intelligence, reality, cause and effect, origins, and life. ToE had limited its explanation to the changes of species to the point of speciation (origin of species). Whereas, Flat Earth could limit itself too, as basis in science, by using a 2km x 2 km, flat surface in every cities on Earth (for example). By using this limited small space or area as compared to the whole area of the whole Earth, Flat Earth could explain also many features in that area, either one topic or few topics. Flat Earth could also limit itself to the reality, pictures of whole Earth from space, satellites locations, and many evidences that contrary to Flat Earth (from the point of vies of Round Earth). Besides, Flat Earth deals only with a very limited area of the whole surface of the Earth, say, 2 km x 2 km. Thus, both ToE and Flat Earth has the same basis: limited explanation of reality and those supporters called it "the reality"
- The Explanation. When the Theory of Evolution (ToE) explains the whole biological world, ToE explains only the "changes", and the rest are not part of ToE or ToE has no explanations, thus, limited scope or limited perspective. By limiting reality in biology with one topic , that is, the topic of "change", ToE could focus itself to connect to all branches of science that also deals with limited explanation of reality - and called it "science". Flat Earth is also science since anyone can explain any phenomena as located and observed on the 4 km square surface of the Earth, in every cities, for example. Flat Earthers may say that they could explain that in the world or "science" of Flat Earth, they could observe green tress, high rise buildings, cars, people, etc, as part of reality, therefore, Flat Earth is true.
- The Predictions. In real naturalistic science, any scientific explanation must have always a good prediction. For example, if a scientist will mix Sodium, (Na) to Chloride (Cl) , the result is NaCl, or salt. Thus, it is predicted that whenever any person will mix Na to Cl, the result will always be NaCl and if any person will separate Na to NaCl, the predicted result is that Cl will be left - thus, this phenomenon in reality is science. And repeatable. But, both ToE and Flat Earth could also make predictions in their own reality but in limited scope of reality. Limited scope or partial scope of reality and whole scope of reality are two different things. Limited scope of reality could lead to erroneous explanations that will lead to erroneous interpretations of reality. In Flat Earth, Flat Earthers could make the following predictions: If Flat Earth is true, I can see people walking in the street. Or, If Flat Earth is true, I can throw a stone.
- The Arguments. In ToE, whenever any person or scientist will ask ToE to a more general and broader of scope of reality (for example, the origin of life or intelligence), the usual arguments of ToE are: "You don't know ToE" or "ToE has nothing to do with that topic". Flat Earth has the same argument. If proponents of Round Earth will ask Flat Earthers to broaden its scope of reality (like the picture of the whole Earth in the outer space, from NASA), the usual logical response are: "You don't know Flat Earth" or "Flat Earth has nothing to do with that topic".
- Flat Earth is Science. If all of us will accept the assumption that Flat Earth had based its explanation in reality with this area, 2km x 2km, in every flat surfaces, in every cities around the world/Earth, then, Flat Earth is science and the new <id> supports Flat Earth by using that basis. We have no choice. - from MrIntelligentDesign
NOTE: Don't delete or don't censor this. This is a free GREAT DEBATE COMMUNITY WIKI and we need to know the other side of story. We are not living in a Communist country, thus, censorship is not applicable here since the contents are not sexual topics. If you want to add your correction or clarification or discuss this topic (THE DISSIMILARITY of FLAT EARTH and EVOLUTION) , please, write them below.
Extra NOTE to Edgar: We are all living in different countries, none of them are communistic (I assume), however the wiki isn't a platform where idiots can write whatever shit they fucking want, nor is this a debate forum. Whenever an editor sees blatant falsehoods written on a page that is meant to give useful info about that subject, they have the full right to delete it. We collectively want the wiki to be a descent source of information and you are willfully and/or obtusely fighting against that goal. I can also point out that you have been granted full permission to edit your own page in whatever way you like. A rare exception from our collective goal. If you wrote this "similarity between evolution and flat earth" nonsense on your own page, no one would delete it. That is the very opposite of censorship. So, here is the deal. If you don't move this paragraph to your own page in 24 hours, you will face the likelihood of being banned temporarily thereby losing your privilege to edit your own page. You have been given this warning before when you wrote on the "evolution" page. Learn from your experience, don't repeat your mistakes.
NESSLIG’S Criteria Of Posting/Commenting
1. Censorship. He believed that we are not living in a Communist country like China and yet he censored any comments/posts that he did not like and he could not rebut. He said “…none of them are communistic…”
2. Idiotic Criteria. He did not define the word “idiot” but in science, an idiot is a person who claims something but could never show it. That is an idiot. ToE and Flat Earth are an idiotic theory/explanation since they could not explain reality, but Nesslig will label any explanation that will violate evolution. He wrote “…where idiots can write whatever shit they fucking want…”
3. No-Debate Forum. He adheres to the criterion of “No-Debate” policy but he will surely engage you in a debate by giving his own rebuttal. He said that “…nor is this a debate forum..”. He indirectly challenged MrIntelligentDesign (Edgar) in the topics of evolution and Flat Earth but Nesslig is not willing to answer directly all of the questions that are being thrown at him. Thus, he did not like debate but he will start it indirectly. Beware.
4. Blatant Falsehoods. Nesslig believed that his posts/comments are not blatant falsehoods because he said so, a typical bully who exerts his effort to bully any person that he could never rebut. He said “…blatant falsehoods written on a page..”. In science, any topics like Evolution and Flat earth are blatant falsehoods since they could never explain reality as in a broader/whole perspective.
5. Descent Source Of Info. Nesslig believed that by censoring any topics that he could never rebut is one example of giving any readers a descent source of information. He will not let the other side to be read or be posted, thus, a bias info is descent info. He said that ”… the wiki to be a descent source of information…” And if you show to Nesslig the other side of the story, he will bully you like this: “…you are willfully and/or obtusely fighting against that goal..” Beware.
6. Jealousy Policy. Nesslig is very jealous to MrIntellgentDesign (Edgar) for the latter has been sharing his initial input to his own profile to help the editors and posters glimpse the idea of the new Intelligent Design <id>. But Nesslig did not understand that Edgar is a more than a scientist since he discovered the real “intelligence” and he has authored 6 science books and yet Nesslig has none to offer. Nesslig wanted to equate himself to Edgar but it is impossible. Nesslig said emotionally, “…you have been granted full permission to edit your own page in whatever way you like. A rare exception from our collective goal.”
7. Deal With It. Nesslig will challenge you to deal with him if he knew that he could never rebut your science or if he felt that he has no chance of winning a debate to a real scientist. He said “…here is the deal…” Now, you must face a bully or submit to a bully. To him, that is called “…collective goal…” Deal With It or Be banned!
8. 24 hours. Nesslig will give you 24 hours (or billions years, I don’t know) to comply with his bullying for he cannot rebut the opposing sides. He said that “…in 24 hours…”
9. Ban Policy! Nesslig will ban you if you post any science that he cannot rebut. He will ban you if you defeat him in a debate that he initiated and started. He never called it censorship but he is doing a censorship. He said that “…you will face the likelihood of being banned temporarily…”
10. Warning Policy! Nesslig will surely warn you not debate with him when he initiated and started a debate in science. He will warn you not post real science and real explanation of reality especially the topics that he had no clue about like “intelligence”. He said that “…You have been given this warning…”
Nesslig, MrIntellgentDesign (Edgar) had six science books, had the best science, had the best model, and had the best explanation, thus, Edgar is giving you his profile in GDC Wiki. You can ban MrIntelligentDesign anytime you like, besides, real scientist, like Galileo was really banned and house-imprisoned for his science!
THE DISSIMILARITY of FLAT EARTH and EVOLUTION (ToE)
EVERYTHING.
Evolution is a change in allele frequency within a population over generations. The theory of evolution explains how and why this process occurs.
The flat Earth is a crappy idea about the shape of the Earth, which cannot account for many observations that you can easily make if you have some spare time and a camera. Also, flat Earth has no cohesive or agreed-upon model, making it nearly impossible to test. This isn't helped by the fact that flat Earthers are the campions of post-hoc explanations, inventing new terms or assigning new meaning and properties to existing terms so that someones test or observation doesn't REALLY disprove a flat Earth (see Betty Van Velsen).
They also typically use certain buzz-words they don't understand to describe terms and effects they don't understand like: perspective, the atmosphere, refraction, lensing, gravity, and more.
See, NO SIMILARITY WHATSO-FUCKING-EVER! You're a moron, Edgar.